BILL GOODMAN,  P. O. BOX 2002,  BOZEMAN,  MONTANA  59771

   TEL. (406) 587-3131        FAX (406) 219-3415

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      Bill Goodman has been a collector of antique/collector firearms for well over 40 years and a full time dealer for over 30 years.  Traveling around the country constantly seeking good quality collector arms at REALISTIC PRICES, Bill sells exclusively by mail order.  He has advertised in every issue of The Gun List  (now Gun Digest the Magazine) since it's first small issues in the early 1980s (as well as The Shotgun News before that). All items are photographed. To view them just click the text of the item you want to see. Be sure to scroll down as most items have more than one photo.  All guns are sold as collector's items, not shooters.  If you wish to shoot an item listed here, it is strongly recommended that you have the item checked out by a competent gunsmith who specializes in antique firearms. All items are sold with the usual three (3) day inspection.  If for any reason you are not satisfied with your purchase, call to say you are returning the item and you will receive an immediate refund when the item is received back in the same condition it was originally shipped. This list will be constantly updated as new items become available.  Use the above phone number to call to check availability and for further info on any item you wish to purchase. Prices do not include shipping. All federal/state laws concerning the transfer of firearms are strictly followed.  Modern firearms must be shipped to an FFL dealer (or "Curio & Relics" license holders where applicable).  Pre-1899 antiques may be shipped to non-FFL holders. All Layaway sales are final.    

 

 

 

 

 

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NOTES FROM THE FIELD (9/14/15) THE TREND IN BLACK GUNS IS ACTUALLY HELPING ANTIQUE/COLLECTOR GUN SALES! I speak with people from all across our great country every day and more and more I'm hearing the same complaints about the state of the current firearms market- new and used. The sentiment is becoming almost universal with the over 30 year old set, that the guns manufactured today "have no soul." Gun shops offer racks and display cases of plastic/polymer firearms all of which are identical. Yes, they are made well and generally built to last, but firearm ownership is more than simply having and using a utilitarian object. There is the important matter of pride of ownership. I remember long ago when I was in college and got invited on a dove hunt.  I don't think I got off a shot that day, but I vividly recall sitting by a fence line with my Beretta Silver Snipe 12 ga. over/under across my knees.  It was a nice, but lower end, Beretta. But to me the wood grain made it unique and the coin silver receiver  contrasted beautifully with the blued steel vent rib barrels... I still have that shotgun and wouldn't sell it even though I don't use it much any more. I also have some synthetic stocked stainless steel bolt action rifles that are wonderfully accurate and that I've taken a good deal of game with. Somehow the memories and attachment to those rifles just aren't there. I could sell them and it wouldn't hurt at all. So, back to the main topic here, a lot of people are feeling the way I do (and probably you do too). This is why we are so drawn to walnut and blued steel in a rifle (and one that required the original owner to carefully stalk his game) that won't be effective at five or six hundred yards. We are also drawn to a hand-tuned revolver put together by a true craftsman, not injection molded and CNC machined by some technician. So again, the guns we like and want "have soul."  And this lack of new products containing this important virtue are what's keeping antique/collector firearms prices on the rise.  And maybe that's not such a bad thing for our investment portfolios!

 

COLT FIRE ARMS (click text for photo

  1. RARE POST-CIVIL WAR CIVILIAN 1860 .44 ARMY PERCUSSION REVOLVER, MADE 1868, much more scarce than the usual U.S. marked and cut for shoulder stock model, these were very popular on the Western Frontier well into the cartridge era as running out of cartridges was not a laughing matter when none could be procured, but powder and lead could always be found, even Wild Bill Hickok carried a pair of Colt 1851 .36 caliber percussion navy revolvers until his death in 1876, this is a fine example easily recognized by not having the recoil shields cut away and notch in the butt for shoulder stock, attachment, all matching numbers including the wedge in the 175XXX range, fine markings, fancy one piece walnut grips are excellent, still some blue in the more protected parts of the barrel but overall mostly an attractive uncleaned gray/brown patina with some scattering evidence of light rust and normal surface dings etc., nice screws, tight action and a particularly fine engraved cylinder scent, front sight has not been altered, very hard to find in this desirable civilian form, $2450.

  2. EXCEPTIONAL CONDITION POCKET NAVY CONVERSION IN .38 CENTER FIRE, MADE 1873-1880, this is the desirable blue and case color round barrel model without ejector of which only about 10,000 in all were made, all matching numbers serialized within the Model 1849 range 313XXX (wedge only mismatched), excellent vivid case colors remain on the frame sides, cartridge loading area and hammer with fading only on the outside part of the left recoil shield (nice color on bottom section of shield and area closest to the hammer), exc. barrel blue with only very light thinning and edge wear, correct pin style front sight is not altered, fine deep blue on the rear rebated part of the cylinder with thinned blue on the balance with excellent, sharp full cylinder scene, exc. sharp markings, uncleaned mellow brass back strap and trigger guard with silver remaining by the trigger guard serial number and in protected areas, tight action, exc. one piece walnut grips  showing a little wear to the left side and near perfect on the right side with much of the varnish remaining, great appearance, very hard to find this nice especially in blue and case color finish. ( four photos)$2850.``

  3. SINGLE ACTION ARMY .38-40, 4 3/4" BARREL, MADE 1906, a really nice untouched attic condition example with all matching numbers including the grips, front sight has not been altered or filed, exc. markings including the correct two line barrel address only used on the shorter 4 3/4" length barrels, exc. screws and cylinder pin, fine+ grips show light handling only and fit perfectly, mottled gray/brown receiver that has never been steel wooled or cleaned, correct original hammer, fine aged barrel blue mixing brown with better blue in the most small protected areas, good cylinder blue also showing ageing with better blue in the flutes, fine blue on the upper sides of the trigger guard bow and in front of the bow by the serial number, also some good blue on the upper back strap by the frame and on the butt and more protected areas of the grips straps, good blue in the ejector housing flutes with aged blue mixing brown/gray on the outside edge, bore needs a good scrubbing but should clean out about exc, great appearance, this 110 year old Single Action came out of Arizona, (4 photos) $2595.``

  4. SINGLE ACTION ARMY .44-40, 4 3/4" BARREL, MADE 1901, nice early smokeless powder model that came out of Arizona, matching numbers, exc. screws, tight action, fine bore should scrub out about exc., front sight has not been filed or altered, still retains some nice case color around the transverse pin ahead of the cylinder on the lower part of the frame, "COLT FRONTIER SIX SHOOTER" marked on the barrel side with correct two line address on top, retains good blue in the flutes of the ejector housing and on the barrel top and right side above and below the housing, also has good blue on the sides of the trigger guard bow and upper back strap on each side of the hammer, good aged blue in the cylinder flutes with the balance a mixture on uncleaned gray/brown, fairly heavily worn hard rubber grips that are basically solid with one small chip on the right side near the bottom front corner, exc. markings, classic, attractive cowboy six shooter! hard to find in this caliber/barrel length combination from the turn of the last century, (4 photos) $2650.

  5. SINGLE ACTION ARMY .32-20, 5 1/2" BARREL, MADE 1902, an early smokeless powder model with very tight action, exc. screws, exc. bore only slightly dark but not pitted, front sight has not been altered, exc. markings, mostly gray/brown overall with thinning blue on the cylinder and better blue in the flutes and protected areas- top and bottom of ejector, sides of trigger guard bow etc. and a little touch of case color below the cylinder pin on each side of the frame and on the recoil shield on both sides of the hammer, matching numbers, neat old bone grips with brass escutcheons around the screw, exc. cylinder pin, lots of character and unaltered, $2250.``

  6. OUTSTANDING CONDITION AND RARE CONFIGURED SINGLE ACTION ARMY! THIS ONE IS A SCARCE 7 1/2" BARREL .38-40 CALIBER (FEW .38-40s MADE IN THIS LENGTH) WITH BEAUTIFUL FULL NICKEL FINISH (ALSO RARE), WITH FACTORY LETTER SHOWING SHIPMENT TO MONTGOMERY WARDS, CHICAGO, IL JANUARY 28, 1899, the letter indicates serial number 1831XX,  .38-40, 7 1/2" barrel, nickel finish and rubber stocks, overall this is truly an exceptional Single Action, all matching numbers including the grips, bright original nickel finish overall with only a couple of small spots of peeling by the muzzle, some freckling & very light peeling around one cylinder flute (positioned so it can be seen in the photos) and on the frame ahead of the cylinder and minor spots of the same on the back strap- all extremely minor and in small areas, exc. blued screws, exc. cylinder pin, sharp markings overall, exc. grips, even retains most of the nickel on the front face of the cylinder indicating this gun was fired little if at all, tight action, barely a cylinder ring on the surface of the nickel, mint bore, very rare barrel length with this caliber and even more rare special nickel finish, a fabulous investment Colt! ( four photos- difficult to photograph as lots of light reflection can distort things, the nickel is all bright and smooth, back strap and top strap too) $8250.

  7. BISLEY MODEL IN .38-40, 5 1/2" BARREL, MADE 1902, a really honest revolver showing no cleaning, steel-wooling, or "improving," still retains some good blue on about 2/3 of the barrel that has just aged dull and dark with brighter blue in the protected areas and in the ejector housing flutes etc., same with the grip straps with better/brighter blue around the top of the back strap by the hammer, the butt and protected areas of the trigger guard, exc. screws, fine markings, exc. lightly worn grips, aged dark cylinder blue, only needs the ejector head- should be an easy fix- the stud is still there and the ejector can be worked using just this, dark frame with a trace of case color in front of the cylinder on each side, front sight very slightly filed on top, nice appearance and 114 years old! (4 photos) $1895.

  8. BEAUTIFUL 1877 .38DA LIGHTNING REVOLVER WITH FULL NICKEL AND MELLOW  IVORY GRIPS, MATCHING #94XXX MADE 1893, this one has the 3 1/2" ejectorless barrel roll marked "COLT D.A.38" with correct two line address on the top, exc. markings including the patent dates on the left side, nearly full bright nickel remains with only minor peeling at the last half inch of so at the muzzle and some minor peeling at the sharp edge of the butt and a little on the back strap edges, exc. blued screws still retain most of the blue, exc. blued cylinder pin (these often chewed up), exc. fire blue on the hammer back and trigger, exc. action and mech., bore should clean exc., gorgeous yellowed/aged ivory is solid and not chipped, overall an outstanding and most attractive antique Lightning.(4 photos)  $2450.

  9. SUPERB CONDITION AUTHENTIC WELLS FARGO & CO. COLT 1895 NEW NAVY .38 DOUBLE ACTION REVOLVER, MADE 1904, I've had several of these over the years and they are all marked the same on the butt- this one is "W. F. & Co. A.10"- and all I've seen have the letter prefix and a number at the end just like this one, in fact as I recall they all had the "A." letter which I assume is a Wells Fargo & Co. inventory number of some kind, these all letter from Colt with the marking put on the butt by Colt. This one is by far the finest condition example I've seen. The ones I've had in the past or have seen have all been hard used and abused with no finish remaining and often dings in the metal. Wells Fargo ordered these .38 Colt caliber revolvers at the turn of the last century and then in future orders bought similarly marked Colt Police Positive Special revolvers in .38 Special caliber- these are much more common than the early 1895 .38 Colt DA guns. This one with 4 1/2" barrel is exceptional for a Wells Fargo gun retaining good fire blue on the trigger sides and hammer back, fine deep high polish blue on the frame and cylinder with some light edge wear and thinning on the cylinder, the barrel also has most of the bright blue with a couple of small finger print rust spots that were wiped off mainly on the left side and a touch on the top strap, some blue wear to the right side of the barrel near the muzzle, trigger guard, front strap and butt show nearly all the bright blue, back strap blue present but getting a little dull, exc. hard rubber grips with matching assembly number (#905) to the cylinder release and cylinder yoke, tight action with exc. bright bore (!), a great condition historical Colt that probably could not be improved upon! (3 photos) $2250.``

  10. NEW SERVICE .38-40, 5 1/2" DOUBLE ACTION REVOLVER, MADE 1915, this is an uncleaned, unmessed with big Colt that came out of Arizona, overall aged blue better in protected areas mixing heavily gray/brown (especially on the barrel, back strap & bottom of trigger guard), front sight has not been altered or filed, exc. markings including the last patent date of 1905 and "NEW SERVICE .38 W.C.F." on the left side of the barrel, still shows some fire blue on the hammer back and sides of the trigger, bright exc. bore, very tight action, excellent screws, fine hard rubber grips, lanyard ring intact, still has a lot of useful life left in this 101 year old Colt! $875.``

  11. ONE OF THE RAREST AND HARDEST TO FIND POST WORLD WAR II GUNS MADE BY COLT! THE COURIER MODEL, .32 NEW POLICE CALIBER (.32 S&W LONG), WITH  ALUMINUM CYLINDER!  MANUFACTURED ONLY FROM 1953-1956 AND ONLY ADVERTISED IN 1954 TO 1955! Only 3,000 of these were made in .22 RF and .32 N.P. combined and they seldom show up for sale. Only the .32 was available with either steel or aluminum cylinders. Some Colt books don't even mention the aluminum option saying the model had a steel cylinder. This one  in the serial range: LW 28XXX was made in 1954. Interestingly, stamped on the butt is "R - 5" meaning unknown.  It would probably be worth getting a letter from Colt on this one to find out where it was shipped and what this marking means. This aluminum frame Colt shows some carry/holster wear mainly on the grip straps, right side of the frame, cylinder edges and left side of the trigger guard. The 3" barrel is steel with barely a touch of muzzle wear on the barrel, fine blue on the hammer back and trigger and ejector rod, tight action, bright sharp bore was probably never fired with jacketed bullets, correctly marked  on barrel "COLT COURIER" over ".32 COLT N.P. CTG" exc. checkered walnut grips with Colt medallion are numbered to the gun and show only a little wear mainly on the bottom edge of the right panel, Almost never encountered because of such limited production divided between two calibers. And with the intriguing markings on the butt, I think this one would have a really interesting factory letter.  $1295.

  12. VERY EARLY 3RD. GENERATION SINGLE ACTION ARMY SHERIFF MODEL, 3" BARREL WITH DUAL CYLINDERS FOR .44-40 AND .44 SPECIAL, UNFIRED IN WOOD GRAINED CARDBOARD BOX MADE 1980, this is a blue and case color revolver from the custom shop, interestingly this one was ordered with rosewood grips and gold Colt medallions, no cylinder drag line- looks unturned! comes with Colt booklet etc. box is a bit scuffed and tattered, but basically very sound, Styrofoam is fine, even has the Colt hang tag! Never to be made again and already 36 years old! These will only increase in value over time, (note: photo light reflection makes the blue looked washed out and thin... just the light, it's all like new) $2850.

                            

 

MARLIN & BALLARD  (click text for photos)

 

1) RARE AND DESIRABLE CALIBER .44-40 MARLIN FIREARMS COMPANY MARKED BALLARD No. 2 OCTAGON SPORTING RIFLE, usually these are found in either .32 or .38 Long Rim fire/Center fire caliber, I've only seen a few in .44-40, 28" medium weight barrel with correct original Rocky Mountain blade front sight with original buckhorn rear sight (needs elevator bar only), dark aged brown patina on receiver and lever, barrel blue also deep and aged/mixing plum, never cleaned or steel wooled, stock appears a little dry and has some age cracks extending back from the receiver, stock and forend show normal handling marks/dings as one would expect from a frontier caliber Ballard of the 1880s period, one small worn in chip at end of forearm on the right side, bore is dark with good rifling and should scrub out fine or better, lever spring a little weak, matching numbers, barrel top correctly marked "44 W," $1195.

2) BEAUTIFUL CONDITION BALLARD No. 9 UNION HILL RIFLE IN DESIRABLE .38-55 CALIBER, MADE BY THE MARLIN FIREARMS COMPANY, 1884-1891, great example with minty bright bore and matching barrel and receiver numbers, exc.+ nicely figured walnut stock and forend, sharp checkering and most of the original finish remaining on the wood, Swiss butt plate and cheek piece stock, 30" half octagon barrel, receiver still retains nice light case color that is mixing a mottled gray, fine deep barrel blue shows only normal light and minor scuffs or thinning, mid range vernier tang sight with windage adjustable spirit level globe front sight, tight action, a truly fine and attractive Ballard in a condition that is hard to find, considered one of the most handsome and graceful of the single shots, (four photos)  $4850.``

3) HIGH CONDITION 1889 .38-40 OCTAGON RIFLE WITH MINTY BRIGHT BORE, MADE 1890, excellent barrel blue with only a touch of edge wear, mag tube shows fine blue with only light mixing plum/brown toward the bottom- very minor, fine deep blue on the receiver with only minor edge wear and thinning, bottom of receiver turning gray by the serial number, fine blue on the loading gate, nice case colors on the hammer some light color remains on the lever sides, bolt turning gray/brown, exc. wood with light handling only, original sights, tight wood to metal fit and even the forend cap retains bright blue, very hard to find a 126 year old Marlin in this condition and with such a great bore! $2350.

4) MODEL '93 CARBINE IN RARE .38-55 CALIBER, this is a later carbine probably made in the 'teens (hence the Model 93 marking instead of "1893"), made without provision for saddle ring, very scarce and desirable caliber in a carbine, in fact, all Marlin carbines in this series are quite scarce, this one has a MINT BRIGHT BORE,  fine deep barrel blue, mag blue about as good with some brown/gray mixing on the bottom, receiver is a mottled brown, "SPECIAL SMOKELESS STEEL"  barrel markings, exc. forend, fine butt stock with one usual chip at the upper tang/receiver juncture and a small crack coming back just below for about an inch- minor and goes nowhere- also has a stress crack in the bottom of the stock caused by the lower butt plate screw- goes for a few inches and stops- stock is very solid, carbine butt plate, fine blue on loading gate, tight action, correct original carbine sights including the ladder rear with slide intact, very hard to find caliber especially with a bore in this great condition, come out of Arizona, $1695.``

5) 1894 OCTAGON RIFLE IN .25-20 CALIBER, MADE 1903, has a Lyman tang sight and also has a surprisingly fine bore that is a little dark but with fine rifling and should brush out near excellent- certainly much better than normally encountered on a 1903 vintage Marlin in .25-20, fine aged barrel and mag blue showing a little thinning, mostly mottled gray receiver with a little blue remaining on the bolt and loading gate, exc. markings, blade/bead front sight with buckhorn rear, generally fine+ wood with good wood to metal fit and has some light old and dry linseed oil or stock finish on the wood that will come off easily with #0000 steel wool, wood has not been sanded, nice appearance, $1195.

6) DESIRABLE 1895 OCTAGON RIFLE IN .38-56 CALIBER, MADE 1898, nice example with fine lightly aged barrel blue overall, mag tube turning more brown, mottled cloudy receiver with some case color remaining on the hammer and a slight trace on the most protected areas, fine wood with a very slight short stress crack coming back from the lower tang- barely visible and goes nowhere, original sights, tight action, bore a little dark and could use a good cleaning to be about exc- not pitted, exc. markings including "Special Smokeless Steel" on the barrel, a better caliber than is given credit for as this is the .45-70 case necked down to .38 caliber and holding a full 56 grains of black powder as opposed to the .38-55 which was a straight .30-30 case and only held about 42-45 grains of powder, getting very hard to find 1895s in any condition, $2950.

7) ONLY MADE FOR ONE YEAR! EARLY MODEL 1936 CARBINE, .30-30, the Model 1936 was basically the model 1893/93 with stock changes, the earliest Model 1936 had no letter prefix to the serial number and had a flat mainspring, the later Model 1936s had the coil main spring and a "B" letter prefix was added to the serial number, both were changed to "Model 36" in 1937, this one is the earlier type without the letter prefix and a serial number of 2XXX, these are quite rare and collectors are only now beginning to recognize their scarcity, this one retains most of the original case coloring on the receiver with only some fading on the tang, a little on the forward left side, etc.,  exc. barrel and mag blue, minty bore, "SPECIAL SMOKELESS STEEL" barrel markings, tight action, exc wood with one small chip that was glued back in the upper tang/receiver juncture on the right side and a small filled sling swivel stud hole in the toe of the stock- all minor, this was the last of the case colored Marlin lever rifles introduced during the Great Depression and made in limited numbers (see Notes from the Field at bottom of site for more on this), seldom seen especially the earlier variety without the letter prefix serial number, I believe these are going to escalate in value rapidly over time, (4 photos) $1195.``

 

 

                A NOTE ABOUT "MODERN MARLINS": Marlin has closed its doors for good in North Haven, Connecticut and been bought out by the folks who own Remington. It looks like some models have been put back into production with the barrels marked "Utica, New York."  I did see one of the new ones with the old North Haven barrel address so I assume they had left over barrels they were using up.  Quality in wood  to metal fit was fair at best and trigger pulls were off the scale heavy!  I don't know if any of the octagon barrel "cowboy models" will be produced again, although their online catalogue does show a model 1894 cowboy-type with octagon barrel in .45 Colt caliber only. I believe these traditional Marlins made in limited runs in North Haven, CT are going to be tomorrow's sought after Marlin collectibles.  Already prices for them are escalating rapidly.

 

1)  JUST IN: MODEL 1894S .44 SPECIAL AND MAGNUM DELUXE CARBINE WITH FANCY CHECKERED STOCK AND ORIGINAL MARLIN SLING, this is the later safety model, comes with original hooded sight and hammer extension used when scoped, about new overall, $875.

2) JUST IN: SCARCE MODEL 375 RIFLE CHAMBERED FOR THE FINE .375 WCF CARTRIDGE, ONLY 16,315 MADE BETWEEN 1980 - 1983, one of the more difficult of the "Modern Marlin" models to find today, in near new condition overall and complete with factory sling swivels and front sight hood, looks like it once had a scope on it that was removed and filler screws replaced in the factory mounting holes on the top of the receiver, great caliber (I have a Ruger No.3 single shot carbine in this caliber that shoots amazingly well), seldom seen model never to be made again, $1150.``

 

 

ANTIQUE & CLASSIC RIFLES, SHOTGUNS AND PISTOLS (click text for photos) 

 

  1. ONE OF THE BEST TRUE 1874 SHARPS SPORTING RIFLE CONVERSIONS MADE BY THE SHARPS RIFLE COMPANY, BRIDGEPORT, CT., NOT A MEACHAM CONVERSION, There is a lot of misinformation about these, but the fact is that the real Sharps Company took Civil War carbines back to the factory and ground the lock plates to the appearance of the 1874 model, changed the tumbler in the lock, put a real Sharps barrel on the rifle with correct Sharps markings & sights and with a correct 1874 forearm. These were then sold to dealers at lower prices than their 1874 Sporters. The Meacham Sharps Conversions have non-Sharps barrels and forearms and are usually of lesser quality.  This example is one of the best I've seen and is interesting as the barrel is a true Model 1874 barrel with the M-1874 serial number correctly stamped under the forearm and neatly "lined out," but still readable (#162XXX- this number will actually letter), This was fairly common on conversions and even factory sporters as Sharps used barrels on returned guns or used extra barrels on many rifles and especially on conversions.  It is a .40 2 1/4" (.40-70) caliber, 30" half octagon barrel with original distinctive Sharps front sight and heavy full buckhorn Lawrence ladder rear sight- this sight was usually put on guns destined for the Western regions- The action and stock are typical Military Carbine style, the amazing part is that this rifle has a bright exc. bore, exc. barrel blue and fine case colors that are lightly fading on the hammer and receiver! Mostly gray lock plate with the early markings, exc. forend, butt stock shows normal light handling only and no abuse,  these are usually found in hard used condition and this is one of the best I've seen! Much more desirable and valuable than a "Meacham," (5 photos, note: case colors are actually better on the left side of the receiver, but photo lights reflected badly, also the dark line on the left side of the stock is simply a light stain that the photo lights picked up and exaggerated) $5400.

  2. UNTOUCHED, UNCLEANED ATTIC CONDITION RARELY ENCOUNTERED REUTH'S DOUBLE BARREL PERCUSSION ANIMAL TRAP PISTOL, This was a pretty horrible devise made from the late 1850s to the early 1860s in small quantities, distinctive and unique action that sets with two muzzle loaded iron barrels and percussion caps with two large barbed bait hooks sticking out from the muzzle and acting as a trigger...so when some animal (preferably not a dog or cat pulls on the bait, he trips the "hammer bar" and both barrels discharge into his head.  Deeply cast into the barrels "F. REUTH'S PATENT" in the center with "MAY 12TH 1857" and "HARTFORD, CONN" on each barrel top, complete with rear bar and ring for attaching to a stake or tree, fully functional and deep dark patina overall with no evidence of cleaning or steel wooling etc. A uniquely American "Folk Art" curiosity  from a time long gone that is now almost never seen, $1650.

  3. SELDOM SEEN DISTINCTIVE ALLEN & THURBER SIDE HAMMER PERCUSSION TARGET PISTOL, ONLY A FEW HUNDRED ESTIMATED MADE LATE 1840s TO 1850s, 8" half octagon barrel about .36 caliber with correct thimbles and ram rod, correct trigger guard with finger spur, original small blade front sight in dovetail and original long target open rear sight with wheel adjustment for elevation- this sight which appears to be made from spring steel is bent slightly up, but is all there and could no doubt be bent back down, unmarked overall (typical of early Allen firearms), deep uncleaned brown patina, fine+ deeply rifled bore, exc. wood grips,  fine action with light target trigger pull, a scarce and uniquely American target pistol from one of the earliest American makers of firearms (an interesting note: a replica of this pistol was used in the Tom  Selleck movie, Quigley Down Under- in the end of the movie the sailor taking names as Matthew Quigley boarded the ship had one under a table) $1150.

  4. STEVENS NEW MODEL POCKET RIFLE No. 40 IN DESIRABLE .22LR CHAMBERING, 10" BARREL WITH MATCHING NUMBERED SHOULDER STOCK, a very nice condition example overall with nearly all of the original nickel remaining on the receiver, exc. stock also shows most nickel remaining with only a few light spots of normal wear/peeling, fine original barrel blue with light thinning on the sides, ORIGINAL SIGHTS including the correct globe with pinhead front sight and folding ladder rear sight with slide intact (when these sights are either missing or have been changed they are difficult and expensive to replace), tight action, exc. walnut grips, barrel number matches stock and receiver number, fine bore with good rifling has some scattered light roughness that might scrub out better, much better than usually encountered, $1195.

  5. EARLY BIG FRAME WHITNEY-KENNEDY OCTAGON RIFLE IN .45-60 CALIBER, WITH "S" LEVER, MADE EARLY 1880s, quite a bit more scarce than the .44-40 size medium frame model, this one shows use, but no abuse, a nice uncleaned and un-messed with example with 28" octagon barrel, overall metal is an uncleaned mottled gray/brown (receiver, barrel and magazine), exc. screws, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit shows only light handling, rear sight is a frontier period replacement of a fixed brass buckhorn placed in the original dovetail with no alterations, front sight is a small copper blade, early barrel marking "Whitneyville Armory CT USA" with correct patent markings on the upper tang, bore a little dark with sharp rifling and ought to scrub out to near excellent. This was a limited production very high quality rifle with only 15,000 of all models (medium and large frame) made between 1879 and 1886 when the company was bought out by Winchester who immediately stopped production, thus killing a serious potential competitor! The actions on these rifles are amazingly smooth. Nice example of a large caliber frontier rifle, $2650.

  6. BALLARD RIFLES: (see above in Marlin section)

                             

 

 REMINGTON (click text for photos)

1) SCARCE NO. 1 ROLLING BLOCK 30" OCTAGON BARREL SPORTING RIFLE IN .40-50 BN CALIBER, nice early 1870s example in the 4XXX serial range with matching serial number barrel, fine  markings, this barrel length is actually 4" over the standard 26" length- customers were charged extra for every 2" over the standard 26" length, uncleaned gray/brown receiver, even thin aged blue on the barrel, some aged blue remains on the hammer and breech block, fine bore shows good rifling and some normal light wear/pitting but still fine, original buckhorn rear and small blade front sights, exc. butt stock, forend shows light handling only, early style metal forend tip, this was a popular deer and medium large game round that fired a 265 grain bullet at near 1500 feet per second and far outclassed the standard .44-40 round of the day, very hard to find good matching Rolling Block sporters! $2650

2) THE MOST DIFFICULT TO FIND AND DESIRABLE CALIBER IN THE ROLLING BLOCK MUSKET LINE! THIS IS A SMOKELESS MUSKET .30 U.S. CALIBER (.30-40 KRAG), I had always read that these were made and I've looked at every Rolling Block musket I've encountered in the last 30 years (!) and never found one... until now! About the only thing I can find on these is in the very back of George Layman's fine new book REMINGTON ROLLING BLOCK MILITARY RIFLES OF THE WORLD in which he lists a chart of all the calibers of rifles/carbines shipped between 1888 to 1921. He shows four small shipments of .30 cal. U.S. rifles shipped between 1898 and 1901 totaling only 94 rifles with a notation that "Smokeless powder rifles in .30-40 Krag caliber were supplied to the state of Colorado." Remington markings on the tang show last patent date of 1874. Fine aged barrel blue, barrel marked ahead of the handguard ".30 U.S." correct military rear sight with ladder and slide, uncleaned receiver aged to a mottled brown, exc. screws, bore should clean exc., tight action, fine forend shows light handling only, handguard has a couple hairline cracks coming back from the rear sight and go nowhere, exc. butt stock with a couple cracks coming forward from the toe of the butt plate for an inch or so, right side of butt stock in the middle has the number "45" stamped in very small numerals, also has an unusual screw with contoured washer around it behind the rear swivel and an inch or two in front of the butt plate- looks original, but meaning/use unknown (see 3rd photo), needs cleaning rod only, I don't ever expect to see another one of these! (3 photos) $2350.

3) EXCELLENT CONDITION ROLLINGBLOCK 7MM MODEL 1901 MUSKET, still retains most of the /deep/dark case colors on the action and trigger guard (these military models did not have highly polished bright case colors), exc. barrel blue showing only light ageing, original sights, bright exc. bore, exc. wood with only the lightest of handling, cleaning rod intact, leather sling, deep original blue on the hammer and breech block etc., even the barrel bands still show most of the blue, sharp tang markings with the last patent date of 1901, about as nice as one could hope to find, (four photos- looks much better in person as photo lights make the case colors appear lighter/duller than they are) $1295.

4)  PARTICULARLY FINE MODEL 30 EXPRESS BOLT ACTION RIFLE THAT CAME OUT OF HERE IN MONTANA, CALIBER ".30 SPRINGFIELD 1906" (.30-06), this one is in the 11XXX serial number range, exc. blue overall with only some light wearing on the bolt, exc. wood with sharp checkering, schnable forend tip, correct steel butt plate, not drilled for scope, may have had a correct receiver sight on at one time as the two filler screws are not in- no marks from ever having a receiver sight in either the metal or wood- exc. bright sharp bore, $995.

5) MODEL 14 PUMP ACTION RIFLE IN DESIRABLE .35 REMINGTON CALIBER WITH CORRECT LYMAN TANG SIGHT, nice early example with correct "upside down" steel curved butt plate, retains most of the barrel blue that is only lightly aged, receiver shows good blue with a few tiny surface dings on the left side- minor, tight takedown, exc. wood, perfect bright sharp bore, even retains most of the blue on the bottom of the receiver and trigger guard, too costly to produce today! $795. ``

6) ONE OF THE BEST U.S. MARKED AND INSPECTED 1871 ARMY SINGLE SHOT ROLLING BLOCK .50 CALIBER PISTOLS I'VE SEEN! ONLY 5,000 MADE FOR THE U. S. GOVERNMENT BETWEEN 1872-1888. Beautiful vivid case color receiver sides with correct "P" and "S" inspector stamps on the left forward side, sharp Remington markings also on the left side, case color clearly visible but a little duller on the receiver ring and grip straps, fine blue on the barrel showing only light age and minor scuffing, exc. forend, grips have a very sharp and distinct inspector stamp on the left side with minor handling marks and some light dings on the butt, bright bore has some scattered surface roughness that is light and might even scrub out better, unaltered front sight, exc. mech. and exc. screws, tight action and breech block, many of these were later converted to target pistols (Models 1891 and 1901) by Remington and resold or by a number of other gunsmiths in independent shops- all of this makes an unaltered example more scarce than even the low 5,000 manufactured number would indicate, very hard to find in this investment quality condition! (3 photos) $2450.

 

RUGER FIREARMS (click test for photos)

1) EARLY, FIRST STYLE MINI-14 WITH WOOD HAND GUARD AND NO STAMPED  RECEIVER WARNING, #180-86XXX, MADE 1977, this early #180 series was only made from the rifle's introduction in 1974 until 1977, this one is in near new condition and comes with two Ruger marked 5-round magazines and two unmarked steel 20 round magazines, owners manual included, very hard to find these early ones with the attractive wood handguards especially in this condition, rapidly increasing in value as Ruger collectors turn to this model, $875. ``

 

SHILOH  SHARPS AND OTHER REPRODUCTIONS (click text for photos)

NOTE:  I am also a Shiloh Sharps dealer.  In fact, I am the only stocking dealer of Shiloh Sharps rifles.  I frequently have a selection of NIB stock on hand for immediate delivery AT CATALOGUE PRICE WITH NO ADDITIONAL PREMIUMS OR FEES!  For further info and lists of available rifles, see my other website,  www.shiloh-ballard.com  

 

1) SHILOH SHARPS RARITY! A TRUE EARLY 1874 .45-90 "GEMMER RIFLE," LONG UN-CATALOGUED AND UNAVAILABLE, BUILT LIKE A HAWKEN RIFLE WITH DOUBLE WEDGE FOREND AND WIPING ROD, CRESCENT BUTT PLATE AND CHEEK PIECE! #3XXX, MADE FARMINGDALE, NY, almost never seen and bringing very high prices on the collector market when available, this one has a long range Soule tang sight with windage adjustable globe front sight with spirit level, as well as the original somewhat ornate "Hawken style" buckhorn rear sight, double set triggers, wood is an attractively grained rich reddish/brown matching both stock and forend, polished barrel with "Old Reliable" barrel marking, only a few minor handling marks, overall beautiful condition and even more rare in this caliber as most of these seem to have been in either .45-70, .45-110 or .45-120. I have this one priced at $4850. SOLD

2) HARRINGTON AND RICHARDSON "OFFICERS MODEL" TRAPDOOR .45-70 SPRINGFIELD REPRODUCTION, MADE IN THE 1970S IN THE U.S.A., a fine copy of the rare and valuable Springfield product of the 1870s intended for officers assigned to Western outposts for hunting purposes, checkered, wrist, engraved lock, hammer, barrel band, breech, pewter tip, etc., wiping rod under the barrel, sporting tang sight, checkered stock and forend- all a close copy of the original, In the 1970s, Handloader Magazine did an extensive article on reloading the .45-70, they used one of these in the test along with a bunch of other rifles and this one proved the most accurate, like new condition, the former owner put gold leaf (available at all hobby shops) in the engraving to make it stand out, easily removed with alcohol, these are getting harder and harder to find especially in this condition, still a bargain when you can find one, $1195.

 

 

SMITH AND WESSON (click text for photos)

 

1) VERY EARLY AND SIGNIFICANT .32 SAFETY HAMMERLESS FIRST MODEL D.A. REVOLVER (LEMON SQUEEZER) ONLY MADE 1888-1902, this was S&Ws first hammerless model and although they made 91,417 first models examples in top condition are scarce, this one with serial number10XXX was probably manufactured 1889-1890 and is in surprisingly excellent condition for such an early example, retains nearly all the factory nickel with only very minor edge peeling/freckling mainly on the cylinder and a spot or two on the frame around the cylinder and on one frame screw head, exc. original deep blue on the trigger guard and shows light case color on the trigger sides, exc. grips, exc. mech., bright bore should scrub out near exc., matching numbers, being small pocket guns, most of these early hammerless revolvers saw lots of carry use and wear, one of the better ones I've seen in s while, collectors are starting to recognize the importance of these early top break Smiths and values are going up for the better examples, $595.

2) EARLY .44  DOUBLE ACTION FIRST MODEL No. 3 REVOLVER WITH 5" BARREL, LOW # 14XXX, C. 1880s, caliber .44 Russian, top break design, all matching serial numbers, this one was obviously a holster gun as the original nickel finish shows wear to the sides of the barrel- typical of holster carry, never cleaned, exc. grip strap nickel with only the most minor of edge wear, frame shows some small areas of flaking, cylinder too shows good nickel with flaking in the flutes and edges, fine blue on the trigger guard and sight latch, fine action, tight lock up, fairly bright fine+ bore may scrub out to exc., grips fit perfectly and are not chipped or cracked but show wear- especially on the right side, again indication of right handed holster carry where the left grip is protected against the body and the right side exposed and rubbed, great unmessed with and uncleaned frontier revolver from the 1880s! (4 photos) $1195.

3) EXCEPTIONAL CONDITION AND ONE OF THE RAREST, HARDEST TO FIND S&W MODELS, AND ONE OF THE RAREST U.S. MARTIAL ARMS! THIS IS A BEAUTY! MODEL 1899 U.S. ARMY REVOLVER, only 1,000 of these were ordered and issued in 1901, most surviving examples show very hard use and abuse, this was S&Ws only side swing revolver made in .38 Colt caliber. 1,000 were made for the Navy and 1,000 for the Army. Of these, the Army seems to be the most scarce. It is distinctive in that where the Navy model was marked with an anchor and Navy markings, it also had plain checkered walnut grips and no lanyard ring, the Army model had special checkered walnut grips with "J.T.T. 1901" stamped in the top part of the left grip and "K.S.M." stamped in the top part of the right grip. The butt is marked "U.S. ARMY" over "MODEL 1899" with a lanyard ring mounted between these markings.    Many, if not most, of these surviving revolvers have had their chambers reamed out to accept the longer .38 Special ammo, this one IS STILL IN ORIGINAL .38 COLT CHAMBERING! Excellent plus walnut grips, in the correct serial range of 13,001 to 14,000 (serial number 135XX), much of the early bright high polish blue remains with some edge wear and thinning/browning on the cylinder, some thinning/browning on the side plate and a little muzzle wear, exc. markings and has the correct K.S.M. inspector stamp on the frame and cylinder, matching numbers, lanyard ring intact, still has good case color on the hammer and trigger, front sight not filed or altered, just enough wear and edge wear to show this one has never been re-blued or "helped" in any way, tight action, minty bright bore, As this is an issued military model, it would be hard to improve upon! (interestingly, there is good info on the commercial and military Model 1899 in Timothy Mullin's excellent book THE K FRAME REVOLVER, published by Collector Grade Publications, the U.S. Army model pictured in this book is no where close to this one in condition)  -4 photos- $2650.

4) PRE-WAR  .44 SPECIAL SECOND MODEL HAND-EJECTOR REVOLVER, 6 1/2" BARREL, NICKEL FINISH, MADE 1921, only 17,510 of this model were made from 1915-1940 and I'm sure that low number reflects limited manufacture and demand during the Great Depression, this one retains nearly all the original nickel with only some scattered freckling mainly on the edges of the grip straps and on the right side of the frame behind the cylinder (this is typical as this is the area that holster straps often rub on), still retains some light case color on hammer and trigger, sharp bright bore, tight action, exc. markings, matching numbers, exc. checkered walnut grips, lanyard ring intact, these big frame pre-war .44s are becoming very hard to get, (note: lots of photo light reflection off bright nickel- looks better in person) $1395.

5) VERY EARLY AND SCARCE MODEL 1902 FIRST CHANGE .32-20 CALIBER REVOLVER, #15XXX ONLY MADE FROM 1903-1905, much more scarce than the same model chambered in .38 Special, this one has the desirable long 6 1/2" barrel, all matching serial numbers INCLUDING ON THE INSIDE OF THE GRIPS, fine blue on the left side of the frame and in the cylinder  flutes, right side shows fine blue with thinning/wearing to gray on the side plate, exc. screws, "A.F.N." in small letters stamped in the frame above trigger on the right side and on the butt under the serial number- meaning unknown, but probably a previous owner's initials... to make sure his hunting and trapping buddies didn't try to steal his pride and joy .32-20 S&W!  exc. grips, barrel ageing to brown with some thin blue, still retains some case color on the hammer and a little on the upper part of the trigger, fine action, mainly bright bore with some light scattered pitting in the top area- probably scrub out better,  $475.``

6) PRE-WAR RARE TARGET VARIATION 1905, 4TH CHANGE, .38 SPECIAL HAND EJECTOR M&P REVOLVER, this one in the 670XXX range was made during the Great Depression era of the 1930s (see Notes from the Field for more on this at the bottom of this site), excellent condition overall with hardly any blue wear- even on the edges- and only a couple of the most minor scuffs on the frame by the hump on both sides, correct high Patridge front sight with correct square notched rear sight blade, exc. case color on hammer and trigger, tight action, perfect inside, matching numbers (grips are numbered in the 635XXX range and fit perfectly), amazing hand fitted quality throughout! These K-frame target models almost never seem to turn up anymore. (note: looks much better than photos show as light reflection makes the blue look thin and faded especially on the edges) $1195. ``

7) SELDOM SEEN PRE-WAR MILITARY & POLICE MODEL IN .38 S&W CALIBER (NOT .38 SPECIAL), WITH 5 INCH BARREL AND NOT ENGLISH PROOFED, many in this caliber were parkerized and shipped to England for their war effort there- they all have multiple British proof markings- and usually smooth wood grips, this one is full blue with nicely case colored hammer and trigger and matching number checkered walnut grips with S&W medallions, the only proof mark indicating military issue/use is a "P" on the butt, all matching numbers, lanyard swivel intact, excellent blue overall with only minor edge wear on the cylinder, tight action and exc. bore, chambers not bored out in the cylinder as was often done on these to convert them to .38 Special (which is a poor idea as cases will split when fired in the oversized .38 S&W chamber when so lengthened- interesting fact: Lee Harvey Oswald had one such converted British revolver on him when he was captured after the Kennedy assassination), a factory letter would be very interesting on this one, not often encountered S&W in great condition, $895.

 

 

U.S. MILITARY AND SPRINGFIELD (click text for photos)

 

1) SCARCE EARLY 1877 TRAPDOOR .45-70 RIFLE, #105XXX, C.1878, excellent example of a limited production model in the Trapdoor line as only about 20,000 were made and most got arsenal updated and altered over time, in the correct serial range that went from 75000 to 115000, rear sight correctly graduated to 1100 yards and secured with early "slotless" screws, light correct oval ESA 1878 dated cartouche in the stock along with the circle P proof behind the lower tang, fine deep barrel blue, also good blue on the front sight protector hood and the swivels, dark correctly marked breech block and lock plate (without the 1873 date on the lock as is correct), "MASS" stamped on the receiver ring, correct barrel proofs, exc. bore, exc. mech., fine+ wood overall with a few "rack dings" on the underside of the forend ahead of the trigger guard which is fairly common, later style cleaning rod, has an unusual circle stamping in the middle rear of the left side of the stock- meaning unknown- Native American or a brand?- one of the nicest examples I've seen in a while, $1295.

2) TRULY AMAZING HIGH CONDITION SPRINGFIELD OFFERING! UNALTERED 1892 KRAG RIFLE, 2ND. TYPE WITH CLEANING ROD, #13XXX, these cleaning rod early Krags were only made from 1894-1895 and nearly all of them were recalled and altered to the 1896 type without the cleaning rod and other upgrades, somehow this rifle remained as issued! It has all the early features including cleaning rod, upper barrel band made for rod, flat butt plate without trap, straight toe of stock, flat muzzle (no crown), short handguard which does not cover the front ring of the receiver, extractor is smooth with no hold open pin, 1894 marked receiver, sharp and crisp "JLA"  over 1895 dated stock cartouche along with sharp circle P cartouche, exc. plus wood has never been sanded or cleaned, fine lightly aged and lightly thinning barrel blue, uncleaned cloudy gray/brown receiver, swivels intact, EXC. BORE, the sight is the earliest 1896 type which was introduced in 1895, unaltered handguard matches stock perfectly, had a sling on it when I got it that was split at the bottom- included, bottom of the trigger guard worn bright from the sling with good blue on the front and back portions! no doubt one of the best extant, I've only seen a few of these over the years and this one is a gem! (five photos)  $8400.

3) HARD TO FIND 1895 "VARIANT" KRAG SADDLE RING CARBINE WITH UNUSUAL FANCY WALNUT STOCK, these were the earliest of the later/standard Model 1896 carbines, but with only "1895" on the receiver- the later ones have "Model 1896"- early serial number 26XXX, all original and unaltered, light but readable stock cartouche and circle "P" cartouche, exc. reddish/brown walnut stock and handguard with high grade "fiddle back" grain in the butt stock- I've only seen this on one other Krag and it was a 1896 rifle- cleaning rods still in butt trap, aged and thinning barrel blue, original 1896 "C" marked rear sight ("C" for carbine), mottled gray receiver and trigger guard, correct barrel band/sight protector, fine bright bore looks a little worn, but should scrub out about exc., all Krag carbines are getting very hard to find and the early 1895 and 1896 "Variant" carbines are exceptionally scarce these days, overall a particularly fine cartouched example of America's last issued saddle ring carbine, $2850.

4) SMITH & WESSON 1899 U.S. ARMY .38 COLT REVOLVER (see above in S&W section)

5) REMINGTON 1871 U. S. ARMY ROLLING BLOCK PISTOL (see above in Remington section)

 

 

 

WINCHESTERS (click text for photos) .

  1. 1873 .32-20 ROUND BARREL RIFLE WITH FANCIER THAN STANDARD WALNUT, MADE 1891, this is a never-been-cleaned example that still has hundred year old grease in the screw heads etc.! exc. dark uncleaned wood shows nice fiddle back grain in the stock, tight wood to metal fit, correct crescent butt plate without the trap for cleaning rods (not used on .32-20 rifles- only on .38-40 and .44-40 rifles), fine deep aged blue on the receiver mixing plum (with plenty of good blue), also aged blue/plum barrel, mag. tube and forend cap with some black powder fouling roughness at the muzzle, original buckhorn rear sight with Winchester base front with small ivory or bone blade, fine markings, mellow un-polished brass lifter clearly marked "32 CAL"  original dust cover intact, tight action, bore is dark with some good rifling and some roughness,  this one has a really good untouched look to it that is hard to find today, (4 photos- receiver looks better in person, photo lights make blue look dull and more brown than it is) $1695.

  2. 1873 .44-40 MUSKET, MADE 1894, very attractive example and all complete with original dust cover, military rear sight, swivels etc., uncleaned overall with aged blue-brown patina on the left side of the receiver with better blue in the protected areas and fine blue on the loading gate, barrel blue also aged to a nice even mellow plum, uncleaned mustard yellow brass lifter factory marked "44 CAL" exc. wood shows light handling only with three small script initials (?) that may be foreign arsenal markings or some other identification marks- all very old and worn in, tight action, exc. mech., exc. bore, really fine unmessed with example, plus antique serial number- many of these were made post-1898, $2395.

  3. SUPER RARE AND DESIRABLE 1873 TRAPPER SADDLE RING CARBINE, .44-40 CALIBER WITH LEGAL 16" BARREL, MADE 1909, When I got this one the owner told me it was brought out of Mexico by Bob McNellis who ran El Paso Saddlery Co. in Texas back in the 1960s or early 1970s.  I can't substantiate this, it's just what I was told and I have no reason to doubt it, Has the correct one inch shorter forend used on Trapper Carbines and also has the correct Winchester barrel address markings AHEAD of the barrel band. This is a hard used Trapper from the Mexican Revolution days (Trappers were popular in Mexico and the Southwest- especially Texas), missing the dust cover and saddle ring (staple intact), overall metal a deep UNCLEANED plum/brown heavily freckled/lightly pitted patina, markings visible, but weak on the barrel, original sights including the correct ladder with slide rear sight marked "1873" at the top, mellow brass lifter, carbine butt with brass trap, lower tang has what appears to be a brass-weld repaired crack under the lever area only visible when the lever is lowered- small and neatly done- fine action and surprisingly bright bore that ought to scrub out to NEAR EXCELLENT! heavily weathered and saddle worn butt stock and especially forearm which has some very old age cracks, Overall a lot of history and character in this extremely rare 1873 variation, $3950.

  4. GREAT 1885 HIGHWALL RARITY!! THIS ONE IS A .32-40 CALIBER WITH CLOSE COUPLED DOUBLE SET TRIGGERS AND HAS A 32" No. 5 ROUND BULL BARREL! A call to the Cody Museum confirms the fact that this Highwall #94XXX was received in the warehouse in 1902 with these amazingly rare features. In many many years of examining hundreds and hundreds of Highwalls I don't think I've seen more than a few that had factory original No. 5 bull barrels. For the .32-40 caliber the standard barrel was 30" with a No.3 medium barrel. The  number 5 barrel was rarely ordered for any caliber. Exc. wood with hardly any handling marks and tight wood to metal fit, ebony inlay in forearm tip, overall metal- barrel and receiver- an aged blue mixing evenly plum with perhaps the receiver being a little more plum/brown, set triggers work fine and retain the adjustment screw (often missing), tight action, Lyman tang sight with fixed globe with pinhead front sight, slot filler in the rear dovetail (no mention of sights in the museum info), bore needs a good scrubbing but will clean exc., weighs 13 lbs. on my postal scale! possibly a one of a kind big impressive single shot Winchester! $4950.

  5. SPECIAL ORDER 1886 .45-70 ROUND BARREL RIFLE, FULL MAGAZINE, SHOTGUN BUTT, MADE 1909, Winchester call in sheet shows this rifle #144XXX as "Rifle, .45-70, round barrel, plain trigger, Lyman hunting front sight with flat top sporting rears sight, smokeless, shotgun butt- rubber, nickel steel barrel, shipped September 15, 1909,"  barrel side is stamped "Nickel Steel," fine deep barrel and mag blue that is showing only some minor spots of thinning/scuffing, still retains the sights mentioned in the letter, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit and exc. Winchester embossed rubber butt plate with the beginnings of a crack in the middle that doesn't go to the edge- really minor, fine blue on the bolt and loading gate, receiver sides show over half the blue on the left side and a bit less on the right side with the balance mixing gray, fairly bright exc. bore, exc. screws, tight action and really attractive special order 1886 in the most desirable caliber, generally during this time of manufacture full length 26" barrels had been replaced with the extra light weight barrels in lengths of 22" for the .45-70 and 24" for the .33WCF- both standard with half magazines, $4350.

  6. 1886 OCTAGON RIFLE IN .40-82 CALIBER, #61XXX, MADE 1891, a nice example with fine barrel blue showing some age and thinning/mixing a little brown, mag tube aged to brown, receiver a dark mottled silvery, exc. blue on the bolt and good blue on the loading gate, buckhorn rear sight with rare "tunnel" front sight with bead on top (one of the more interesting and seldom seen sights of the day), exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit, bore surprisingly fine with good rifling and just needs a good clean to be about excellent- much better than normally seen, tight action, this was the biggest .40 caliber in the 1886 and is simply the .45-90 necked/tapered to .40 caliber, $2850.

  7. VERY EARLY SPECIAL ORDER 1886 RIFLE IN .33WCF WITH SOLID FRAME AND FULL MAGAZINE, MADE 1905, as full magazines are rare and only special order on these lightweight 1886 models, I called the Cody Museum and confirmed that this rifle was originally shipped with "round barrel plain trigger, full magazine and shotgun butt rubber," most of these were also takedown with solid frame rifles more scarce, the .33WCF was introduced in 1903 making this one in the 137XXX serial range a very early example, exc. mag blue with only a little minor dulling spot toward the muzzle, fine barrel blue showing some thinning and age, original buckhorn rear sight with Lyman half-moon with ivory bead front sight,  exc. blue on the bolt, fine blue on the receiver sides that is thinning/ageing with some plum and brown mixing, receiver edges, top and bottom turning gray/brown, uncleaned appearance, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit, exc. sharp bore and tight action, tang screw only appears turned, one of the few .33 caliber 1886 models that really looks like an '86 ought to look, $3200.

  8. 1887 LEVER ACTION 10 GA. SHOTGUN, WITH 30" STEEL BARREL, MADE 1893, this one came out of a pawn shop here in Montana and looked like it hadn't been cleaned or oiled in the last fifty years! Under all the grime is a nice even dark patina on the metal with exc. screws and a sharp Winchester monogram logo on the left side of the receiver, generally excellent wood with only normal light handling marks and no cracks or chips, original checkered steel butt plate, fine bore that at worst is a little surface frosty and may scrub out even better, this one probably sat in a closet or attic for the last number of decades before someone took it to the pawn shop!  Great untouched appearance, $1395.

  9. HIGH CONDITION, FIRST YEAR PRODUCTION 1892 OCTAGON RIFLE IN 32-20, SERIAL NUMBER 21XXX MADE 1892, really remarkable condition for such an early example, receiver shows nearly all the bright blue with only some scattered freckling (on the metal more than in the metal), even the top of the receiver and upper tang show most of the blue, some minor wear by the serial number, fine deep blue on the barrel and mag tube showing only very slight age and edge wear, original sights, still some nice case color on the lever sides, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit showing light handling only, even the forend cap retains most of the blue, bore is bright with only some very minor and small scattered spots of roughness that might clean out, could probably use a good careful clean overall, $2750.

  10. 1892 .32-20 OCTAGON RIFLE, MADE 1915, a really attractive rifle that retains nearly all the barrel and mag blue with only some light corrosion on the barrel ahead of the front sight, original sights, receiver blue ageing to brown with exc. screws and fine blue on the loading gate- never cleaned or steel wooled, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit and has a slightly better than standard grain, fairly bright bore with only a couple minor spots that should scrub out to near exc., a truly nice looking 1892 with great barrel and mag blue, $1795.

  11. 1892 TRAPPER SADDLE RING CARBINE IN RARE 25-20 WITH FACTORY 16" BARREL, MADE 1917, almost all the short "Trappers" were in .44-40 caliber, anything else is rare, the previous owner of this carbine had an extra barrel made the same length in the same caliber and installed as he wanted a shooter with a perfect bore so this one has the original barrel with correct markings in the correct place etc. PLUS the professionally altered standard carbine barrel also in 16" length that is mounted on the rifle- it would be easy to re-install the original barrel- fine+ wood with tight wood to metal fit and CORRECT SHORT FOREARM show light handling only, mostly brown receiver with some light rust pitting on the bottom behind the serial number, original barrel and mag tube show blue with outside rust and scattered pitting that could be cleaned better- still some good blue on the barrel, bore is a bit worn and frosty- might clean better, fine markings, exc. screws, correct carbine rear sight (now on the replacement barrel) and carbine front (only the pinned blade was taken from the original barrel and put in the replacement), this is the shortest legal length barrel so no ATF papers are needed, $3450.

  12. NICE CONDITION RARE 1892 TAKEDOWN OCTAGON BARREL, FULL MAGAZINE .32-20 CALIBER RIFLE MADE 1907, fine deep receiver blue showing a little mixing plum mainly on the right side but still retaining strong blue, fine blue on bolt, aged blue to brown on upper tang and bottom of receiver, fine barrel and mag blue showing some light age only, exc. markings, tight action and tight takedown, exc. wood shows light handling only with very tight wood to metal fit, exc. screws, bore a little dark with strong rifling- looks to have a little leading in the grooves that ought to brush out to exc., original sights, very hard to find takedowns in the Model 1892 especially in this overall fine condition, $2750.

  13. SPECIAL ORDER 1892 .44-40 HALF-OCTAGON BARREL, HALF-MAGAZINE, WITH MINTY BRIGHT BORE, MADE 1905, according to the Winchester Handbook by Madis, only 613 1892s were made with half oct. barrels and 2740 were made with shorter than standard magazines, from my experience, most with these features are small .25-20 and .32-20 caliber rifles with these features in a .44-40 really uncommon, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit, receiver shows good deep blue on about half of the sides with the balance showing areas of gray and brown with some surface scratches and light rust from bad storage, fine blue on bolt and upper tang with one very small spot of rust pitting on the bolt, fine barrel blue on the octagon part with aged and thinning blue to the muzzle, exc. screws, original sights, a little careful cleaning of the receiver would go a long way on this one, amazing bore for such an early rifle! $2695.``

  14. EXCELLENT CONDITION VERY LATE PRODUCTION 1892 OCTAGON RIFLE, .25-20 CALIBER, #996XXX, MADE 1929, ONE OF THE LAST OF THE 1892 RIFLES!  Correct very late barrel markings including the "Model 92" stamping, retains nearly all the barrel and mag blue with only the lightest of handling marks, receiver retains most of the late 190s style of blue that looks more dull black- these late guns almost always have the receivers flaked to silver, this one shows only very minor thinning/freckling, exc. wood shows only light handling, tang sight with blade/bead front sight, filler in rear dovetail- doesn't look like it ever had a rear sight, bright minty bore, late rifles like this one especially in octagon are quite scarce, made in the year of the Great Stock Market Crash! $2150.

  15. JUST WHEN YOU THINK YOU'VE SEEN EVERYTHING TURNED OUT BY THE WINCHESTER FACTORY... 1892 RIFLE THAT WAS RETURNED TO THE FACTORY AND FITTED WITH A MODEL 65 BARREL IN .25-20 CALIBER! Obviously done at the factory as the barrel has the "mail-order" oval proof PLUS  the regular Winchester firing proof mark which indicates the factory pulled this extra barrel out of inventory and instead of "mailing" it out used it themselves to rebarrel this 1892 that was obviously returned for work! The serial number on the receiver is in the 330XXX range or about a 1906 manufacture, so it was returned some time later- probably quite a bit later as the butt stock has the finely checkered shotgun style used on post war guns, butt stock and forearm match perfectly in color, correct button style 1/2 magazine as the Model 65 barrel has no provision for a full magazine, correct 22" length with integral ramp and hooded front sight (hood intact), Marked on left side of the barrel "Model 65" and also the late ".25-20 WCF" marking., receiver blue ageing to plum/brown, fine aged barrel blue also mixing a little plum/brown (matches receiver nicely), PERFECT BRIGHT BORE, A real oddity and all factory Winchester!! $1695.

  16. HIGH CONDITION 1892 SADDLE RING CARBINE IN .25-20 CALIBER, MADE 1925, exc. walnut stock and forend with tight wood to metal fit and hardly any handling marks at all, exc. deep barrel and mag blue with only a hint of slight wear probably from being put in and out of a case, carbine front sight with three leaf express rear sight- all leaves intact, fine deep receiver blue with minor light areas of flaking/browning which is typical for 1920s vintage Winchester receivers, even the upper tang and bolt retain about all the deep blue, exc. screws and correct exc. late markings correct for a 1925 vintage carbine, tight action and exc. sharp bore, nice investment quality '92 saddle ring carbine, $2895.

  17. ONE OF THE VERY LAST OF THE 1894 26" RIFLES, WITH UNUSUAL FEATURES, #1070XXX, MADE THE YEAR OF THE GREAT STOCK MARKET CRASH 1929- FOUR YEARS AFTER 1894 RIFLES HAD BEEN DISCONTINUED IN FAVOR OF CARBINES IN 1924! TAKEDOWN, HALF OCTAGON BARREL AND FULL MAGAZINE! CALIBER .32 WS, no doubt a parts clean-up rifle, has the very late correct barrel marking of "MODEL 94-WINCHESTER" on the right side under the rear sight, exc. barrel and mag blue with exc. blue also on the bolt, still retains some flaking blue on the forend cap, receiver a mottled flaking blue to brown as is typical of receivers from this era, exc. wood with tight wood to metal fit, exc. screws, tight takedown, exc. blue on the loading gate, flat top buckhorn rear sight with blade/bead front sight, minty bright bore, a true '94 oddity in nice condition, $2250.

  18. GREAT FRONTIER CHARACTER IN THIS ANTIQUE SERIAL NUMBER 1894 SADDLE RING CARBINE, .30WCF CALIBER, MADE 1896, the former owner (who I know) said this one came off an old Texas ranch, overall metal is a very deep uncleaned plum with good markings and a perfectly matching aged three leaf express sight with all leaves intact, dark uncleaned wood shows normal handling but is solid and has tight wood to metal fit and has some saddle wear on the forearm, left side of stock has three sets of lightly scratched underlined  initials: "J P" "L P" and "G P" so perhaps this carbine was shared by three brothers (or sisters? nah...), bore is a little dark and worn, but not pitted, great untouched appearance with lots of history in this antique 1894 saddle gun now 120 years old! $1395.``

  19. VERY RARE BARREL LENGTH, 1894 22" OCTAGON, FULL MAGAZINE, ORIGINAL SHORT RIFLE, .30WCF CALIBER WITH CORRECT 1 INCH SHORTER FOREND, MADE 1909. Almost all the 22" barrel 1894s I've seen have been the "Extra Light" version usually with a round barrel and half magazine, this one has the standard weight octagon barrel and most importantly has the  8 3/8" forend used only on rifles with special short barrels as opposed to the standard 9 3/8" used on other rifles. receiver is mostly an uncleaned aged blue to brown with some very aged blue in the more protected areas and on the loading gate, aged and thinning barrel and mag blue, has the special three leaf express sight with all leaves intact, fine wood, stock has a couple of holes near the toe from a past sling swivel base- should be easy to fill, bore a little dark with sharp rifling and will scrub out exc., tight action, much more scarce than the usual 20" length short rifle which was considered the standard, $2450.

  20. WORLD WAR II PRODUCTION 1894 .25-35 FLAT BAND CARBINE, serial number in the 1407XXX range, this one was obviously used but not abused in any way, fine receiver blue thinning to gray on the edges, bottom and upper tang, fine barrel and mag blue showing normal use and light wear, fine+ wood with tight wood to metal fit, correct checkered steel butt plate, buckhorn rear sight with blade/bead front sight in ramp dovetail, exc. sharp bore, $1295.

  21. EARLY HIGH CONDITION FULL DELUXE 1907 .351 SELF LOADING RIFLE WITH FANCY WALNUT, PISTOL GRIP AND CHECKERING, MADE 1909, highly figured burl walnut with heavy "piano finish" is all excellent showing very minor handling only with most of the finish remaining, correct Winchester embossed butt plate and pistol grip cap, sharp checkering, exc. blue overall with light edge wear only and wear/flaking to the forend cap, tight action exc. inside, original sights, great example of one of the most early semi-auto center fire rifles! ( 3 photos ) $3250.

  22. HIGH CONDITION DELUXE MODEL 64 RIFLE, .30-30 CALIBER, MADE 1954, retains nearly all the original blue with only minor scattered edge wear, exc. bore, exc. wood with very light handling only, sharp checkering, original checkered steel butt plate and  forend cap, not quite a mint example, but certainly exc.+ overall, one of the last of the "deluxe" pre-64 Winchesters in really nice condition, over 60 years old and rapidly rising in value, $2150.

  23. FIRST YEAR PRODUCTION AND SUPER RARE MODEL 71 .348 WCF DELUXE 20" CARBINE WITH BOLT PEEP SIGHT, SERIAL NUMBER 11XX, MADE 1936, Simply a great find as these are extremely rare, this one has seen some light honest use, but no abuse, retains the original super grade sling swivels, exc. walnut stock and forend with sharp checkering and original Winchester embossed pistol grip cap, original checkered steel butt plate, barrel and mag. tube retain about all the deep blue with only some minor muzzle wear and mag end cap wear to the blue, receiver shows some gray on the bottom and edges with a little thinning mainly on the left side, forend cap flaking gray, exc. blue on the bolt and good blue on the upper tang with some light thinning, bolt peep sight intact, slot filler in rear dovetail of the barrel with no indication there ever was a rear sight installed, tight action, exc. screws, sharp minty bore, a very rarely encountered  investment Winchester with an extremely low serial number! $5200.

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    BILL GOODMAN,  P. O. BOX 2002,  BOZEMAN,  MONTANA  59771           TEL.  (406) 587-3131          FAX  (406) 219-3415   

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 THESE W WERE SUCH  GOOD NOTES FROM THE FIELD I'M KEEPING THEM HERE.

NOTES FROM THE FIELD:  (27 April 2011) CRACKED STOCKS!  Seems like an odd thing to write about, but this is something I've not seen in print before. I've observed a lot of rifles with cracks coming straight back toward the butt plate from the upper and lower tangs. Sometimes the cracks are severe enough to warrant repairs (like cross bolts etc. through the wrist or extensive gluing) and other times the stock remains pretty solid as is.  So what caused this condition in the first place?  I've hunted with all kinds of rifles in all kinds of weather and terrain and never had a gun get damaged like all these I've seen.  And I've taken some pretty bad falls too. Once, on ice I couldn't see beneath a couple inches of fresh snow, my feet went out from under me and my rifle landed a number of yards away!  Still, no cracks like these. So I've been puzzled by this for some time.  Then it hit me, since these guns all seemed like Western big game rifles- large lever actions like 1876 and 1886 Winchesters or Marlin 1881 and 1895s as well as all over while the rifles were in saddle scabbards- fairly common in icy winter conditions, especially in the mountains. Also, sometimes horses will walk so close to trees that they rub against them.  If a rifle is in a butt-forward position scabbard, the rifle can go on one side of the tree and the horse the other causing a stress cracked stock.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.  The wrists are fairly strong on most rifles and it takes a lot to crack one.  If anyone else has a different theory about this condition, I'd like to hear it!

          

 

NOTES FROM THE FIELD:  (24 OCTOBER 2011) "GUNS OF THE GREAT DEPRESSION YEARS"  When the Great Depression began with the Stock Market Crash of 1929 America was taken by surprise.  Prior to this pivotal event, in the gun industry production was high and sales were brisk.  Almost overnight sales fell off hugely.  The Winchester Handbook by George Madis shows production numbers by years of some of the major models.  This is pretty illuminating.  Here are some examples: Model 1890 .22RF had 12,367 produced in 1928 and 696 made in 1932; Model 1892 saw 64,833 produced in 1910 and 491 in 1930; Model 53 had 2,861 produced in 1925 and 30 made in 1937; Model 1894 had 29,967 made in 1927 and only1,192 made in 1934; Model 55 had 3,064 made in 1927 and 42 made in 1936. Colt, Marlin, Savage, Remington and Smith & Wesson etc. all f elt the same pressure.  With production down to a fraction of what it was, the big manufacturers had no choice but to fire employees.  Those lucky enough to be retained were the most highly skilled and experienced craftsmen.  They also had time to put extra fine fitting and finishing into each firearm.  Generally, the quality of these guns is truly exceptionally.  With production numbers of these late pre-war arms relatively small and quality without peer, their value should be assured.  Some of the scarce large frame Colt and S&W handguns- especially the target sighted versions- are almost breathtaking in their fit an  d finish.  This has been an under-appreciated niche in arms collecting/investing. It is my belief Great Depression era  arms are often "sleepers" on the antique market today and are bound to increase in value at a rapid pace making them excellent long term inv